User talk:Andy Dingley

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Category:Photographs by Gerard Dukker in Leidschendam (1981)[edit]

Can you take a look at this category, please. I don't know if something went wrong with Template:ANEFO photographer location or if other users set it up incorrectly higher in the tree. But this particular category seems to have inserted itself into several categories in a redundant manner. Cheers, SVTCobra 23:40, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Or maybe I am just wrong and that's how they all work. --SVTCobra 23:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • That's what I'd expect it to do. If it's not optimal, then we can think about what would be better. But so far I can't!
It wants to go for 1981 in Leidschendam. It would settle for Leidschendam by year. But as neither of those exist, it can't. So rather than leave iself unlinked, it goes for the "next bests" that are Leidschendam and 1981 in South Holland. It also uses 1981 in Leidschendam as a deliberate redlink, to indicate the choice if anyone wants to create a new category.
I can't see a better behaviour (or else I'd make it do that). I don't hold with the "excess categorisation" argument, although there's a guy who keeps breaking stuff deliberately because he's so wound up about that. I see that "excess" as very minor, and much less important than not tying them into the location categorisations at all.
It could (quite easily) use a parameter to switch behaviours. But I really hate that as a fix, because it would involve hundreds of edits to each use of the template, and that makes things unchangeable in the future. Stuff like this needs to stay fully automatic, even when that becomes a lot of work in one place. This is why I've been adding the |intermediate= param already, even though the template doesn't use that yet.
For a small category like this, I'd probably go with creating Leidschendam by year, if I really wanted to remove redlinks. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I also wouldn't create Category:Photographs by Hans van Dijk in Leidschendam. It only has one child (1981), and the child is deliberately designed to not need the parent, if there isn't one. One of the original points of all this was to avoid those additional near-empty levels of navigation. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:12, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Aha. I have deliberately created the tree when I make new branches. I may even have created a province category which had only one city category with only one year being applicable. Usually, it works itself out as more years and more cities show up as I work my way through these massive collections. If I don't create them as I go, it feels impossible to remember which I need to go back to. I create them when there are 4 or more photos in a city in a year, and then I connect them by creating the parents, even if it is an only child. Maybe this is wrong, but usually it gets filled in later. Thanks for your input. Cheers, SVTCobra 16:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Rail transport in Great Britain[edit]

Hi, Andy. Just to let you know, this category is not a metacat. However, I removed the metacat template and replaced it with a different one that says things should be moved to subcategories. If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Would you look into?[edit]

Hello, I just wondered if you could review [[1]]. This is my own work, a portion of a miles long levee. I'm not sure what is wrong with the image, I don't understand the rules here too much. The nominator may have a history with bad noms, this could very well be good but I don't understand. Unbroken Chain (talk) 15:26, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wrong link in categories about Photographs by Herbert Behrens[edit]

I have seen that in for example Category:Photographs by Herbert Behrens in the Netherlands there is a link to the German politician Category:Herbert Behrens which should be Category:Herbert Behrens (photographer). Wouter (talk) 08:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah, thanks. I'll have to find some way to fix that. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Midland Compound 1000.jpg[edit]

Hi Andy, sorry but I don't follow your argument on deleting the category 1975 in County Durham, the photo was taken in 1975 in County Durham so what is the problem? The category 1975 Stockton & Darlington cavalcade isn't a subcat of that. regards Murgatroyd49 (talk) 17:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The cavalcade is clearly an event in Durham in 1975. It belongs in that category.
Photos of the locos are much less strongly linked to time and place. They're obviously "in preservation", but it would be hard to tell them apart from the 1980 cavalcade at Rainhill. Now we would still add the time and place categorisation to them, except that they're going into the specific cavalcade category. Now COM:OVERCAT starts to apply: being at the cavalcade completely implies also being in Durham in '75, so we don't need both. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]